it's not a about a christmas tree and tinsel and charlie brown. this is about an assault on christian america that's been going on for many many years. now surely you know that you can bash christians all day long in this country with no consequence. surely you know that. >> do i know that except for the consequence of us speaking out as we are doing now. >> bill: who is speaking out beside me? >> lots of people are speaking out. >> bill: who, name them? >> i'm sitting here. >> bill: you sat the "fox & friends" people silly. and isn't it silly to diminish christmas by even engaging here? >> no, what i said to them it is that it is silly. sillness in a way of for example calling a menorah a holiday candle stick. that's silly. it's irrational. it's not good. what i was trying to say is it's important for us to speak out but not to get upset to the point in which our christmas, my christmas becomes all about being angry at people who are not living christian -- >> bill: i don't think anybody is in that category. i'm certainly not. my charge here is t